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		<title>By: Zygote</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-15132</link>
		<author>Zygote</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>He lives! :)</description>
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		<title>By: joran</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-15154</link>
		<author>joran</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Michael,

Yes, I live. (c: I'm still swamped with work, and will be until the end of the contract, which is January 2008. I'm making the internal communications system for Minitry of Energy, Thailand. Mostly, its about training the trainers, who will later train the users on how to use the internet. It's fun, but my XNA itch is developing into a rash, so guess what I will be doing in Februrary... You guessed right, except I've decided to switch to 3D. (c:

I'm very impressed with your ability to keep &lt;a href="http://ziggyware.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;ZiggyWare.com&lt;/a&gt; going. It's the major source for all things XNA during my downtime. Thank you for all you have done!

Cheers,
Joran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>Yes, I live. (c: I&#8217;m still swamped with work, and will be until the end of the contract, which is January 2008. I&#8217;m making the internal communications system for Minitry of Energy, Thailand. Mostly, its about training the trainers, who will later train the users on how to use the internet. It&#8217;s fun, but my XNA itch is developing into a rash, so guess what I will be doing in Februrary&#8230; You guessed right, except I&#8217;ve decided to switch to 3D. (c:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very impressed with your ability to keep <a href="http://ziggyware.com/" rel="nofollow">ZiggyWare.com</a> going. It&#8217;s the major source for all things XNA during my downtime. Thank you for all you have done!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Joran</p>
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		<title>By: Ragura</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-15228</link>
		<author>Ragura</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Glad to hear you'll continue your series, it's been an enormous help while learning XNA. By February they'll probably have XNA2.0 out, so I hope you'll consider integrating some of its features, like networking support (which I tried integrating, but honestly haven't found the right books to learn it from).

Thanks for the book list by the way. I've ordered Carter's book because of it :)

Good luck at the ministry,

Ragura</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear you&#8217;ll continue your series, it&#8217;s been an enormous help while learning XNA. By February they&#8217;ll probably have XNA2.0 out, so I hope you&#8217;ll consider integrating some of its features, like networking support (which I tried integrating, but honestly haven&#8217;t found the right books to learn it from).</p>
<p>Thanks for the book list by the way. I&#8217;ve ordered Carter&#8217;s book because of it <img src='http://www.xnatutorial.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good luck at the ministry,</p>
<p>Ragura</p>
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		<title>By: pugmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-15433</link>
		<author>pugmartin</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>i have the Nitschke book, and while very good ive been struggling with a lot of it. i think its for more advanced users</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have the Nitschke book, and while very good ive been struggling with a lot of it. i think its for more advanced users</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Athi</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-16552</link>
		<author>Kris Athi</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I personally think Joseph Hall's&lt;/a&gt; book is probably the best XNA book out there at the moment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think Joseph Hall&#8217;s book is probably the best XNA book out there at the moment</p>
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		<title>By: joran</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-16558</link>
		<author>joran</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Kris Athi said: "Joseph Hall's book*

Yes, I'll get to that one. It takes a while for books to arrive here in Thailand, and it came out on Amazon.com in September. I'll have patience. I haven't finished the first batch of three books yet. I did check Joseph's videos, and they were good, so I'm looking forward to the book:

http://www.codetopia.com/xnablog/

Cheers,
Joran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris Athi said: &#8220;Joseph Hall&#8217;s book*</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;ll get to that one. It takes a while for books to arrive here in Thailand, and it came out on Amazon.com in September. I&#8217;ll have patience. I haven&#8217;t finished the first batch of three books yet. I did check Joseph&#8217;s videos, and they were good, so I&#8217;m looking forward to the book:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.codetopia.com/xnablog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.codetopia.com/xnablog/</a></p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Joran</p>
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		<title>By: Pawel Krakowiak</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-16597</link>
		<author>Pawel Krakowiak</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks, I was looking for such books yesterday and just stumbled upon this post. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I was looking for such books yesterday and just stumbled upon this post. <img src='http://www.xnatutorial.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: CornflowerToo : Reviews, Re-Views, and Re: Views</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-16937</link>
		<author>CornflowerToo : Reviews, Re-Views, and Re: Views</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] )While these comments weren't on my book's Amazon, BaM, or B&#38;N profile, they are flattering..."I personally think Joseph Hall’s book is probably the best XNA book out there at the moment" -- Kris Athi."It felt more like a transcription of somebody's poorly though out presentation. I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] )While these comments weren&#8217;t on my book&#8217;s Amazon, BaM, or B&amp;N profile, they are flattering&#8230;&#8221;I personally think Joseph Hall’s book is probably the best XNA book out there at the moment&#8221; &#8212; Kris Athi.&#8221;It felt more like a transcription of somebody&#8217;s poorly though out presentation. I [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: R F</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-26213</link>
		<author>R F</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I disagree with you about the quality of Carter's book.  I have it and have to say that he explains very little about how the algorithms work, and just provides example code after example code.  This might be ok for some, but the book isn't worth the $50 pricetag ($30 if you get it from amazon).  You can pick up a little from it but don't expect to understand it very well.  For example, he tells you how to make a "Skybox" and provides five pages of code to do geometrical manipulation, but this teaches you very little about XNA itself, only how to solve a very specific problem (and doesn't even solve it well as the result is a cube-shaped world).

There were also some typos in the book that resulted in compile errors (chapter 3 or 4 somewhere).

I have been programming for 8 years, have read many programming books and know that it is essential to produce material that will enlighten someone in a considerable way.  Next time you recommend a book to someone make sure you have facts to back up the recommendation.

By the way, you don't need to read a C# book just because you haven't done C# before.  If you are smart enough to program and already know a C-style language then you can skip the intro books as they are written for the audience of someone who hasn't programmed before.  A good C# book for the experienced programmer is "Pro C# 2008 and the .NET 3.5 Platform, Fourth Edition".  It explains things very well and covers many topics thoroughly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with you about the quality of Carter&#8217;s book.  I have it and have to say that he explains very little about how the algorithms work, and just provides example code after example code.  This might be ok for some, but the book isn&#8217;t worth the $50 pricetag ($30 if you get it from amazon).  You can pick up a little from it but don&#8217;t expect to understand it very well.  For example, he tells you how to make a &#8220;Skybox&#8221; and provides five pages of code to do geometrical manipulation, but this teaches you very little about XNA itself, only how to solve a very specific problem (and doesn&#8217;t even solve it well as the result is a cube-shaped world).</p>
<p>There were also some typos in the book that resulted in compile errors (chapter 3 or 4 somewhere).</p>
<p>I have been programming for 8 years, have read many programming books and know that it is essential to produce material that will enlighten someone in a considerable way.  Next time you recommend a book to someone make sure you have facts to back up the recommendation.</p>
<p>By the way, you don&#8217;t need to read a C# book just because you haven&#8217;t done C# before.  If you are smart enough to program and already know a C-style language then you can skip the intro books as they are written for the audience of someone who hasn&#8217;t programmed before.  A good C# book for the experienced programmer is &#8220;Pro C# 2008 and the .NET 3.5 Platform, Fourth Edition&#8221;.  It explains things very well and covers many topics thoroughly.</p>
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		<title>By: joran</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-26224</link>
		<author>joran</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>R F said:

"I have been programming for 8 years, have read many programming books... Next time you recommend a book to someone make sure you have facts to back up the recommendation."

Please note the smilies. I'm not upset. (c:

For me, the key word in your statement is 'someone'. That's vague. You've been programming for eight years and read many books on the subject, so what are you doing here at XnaTutorial.com? (c:

When reviewing a book or a movie, you have to pick an audience to review for. On Swedish national TV a few years ago, there was an artsy-type woman who reviewed 'The Matrix', and didn't like the movie. During the course of the review, it became clear that she had not even understood the plot. She had the impression that the Matrix was the real world, and that the characters logged into some apocalytic game-world. (c: Talk about embarrasing yourself on national TV. (c:

My point is, if you like science fiction, review science fiction movies, not sobby chick flicks. (c:

If you follow XnaTutorial.com, buy a beginners book, not Nitschkes book.

If you have been programming for eight years, write a book for us beginners, don't follow the advice of someone who has been programming for a year in his limited spare time (me). (c:

As a side note, the time stamp of the post is five months ago. As the comments say, I've been waiting for Hall's book to arrive here in Thailand, and now it has. I have to say that I change my mind. Hall's book is probably the best one _for my intended audience_.

Cheers,
Joran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R F said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I have been programming for 8 years, have read many programming books&#8230; Next time you recommend a book to someone make sure you have facts to back up the recommendation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please note the smilies. I&#8217;m not upset. (c:</p>
<p>For me, the key word in your statement is &#8217;someone&#8217;. That&#8217;s vague. You&#8217;ve been programming for eight years and read many books on the subject, so what are you doing here at XnaTutorial.com? (c:</p>
<p>When reviewing a book or a movie, you have to pick an audience to review for. On Swedish national TV a few years ago, there was an artsy-type woman who reviewed &#8216;The Matrix&#8217;, and didn&#8217;t like the movie. During the course of the review, it became clear that she had not even understood the plot. She had the impression that the Matrix was the real world, and that the characters logged into some apocalytic game-world. (c: Talk about embarrasing yourself on national TV. (c:</p>
<p>My point is, if you like science fiction, review science fiction movies, not sobby chick flicks. (c:</p>
<p>If you follow XnaTutorial.com, buy a beginners book, not Nitschkes book.</p>
<p>If you have been programming for eight years, write a book for us beginners, don&#8217;t follow the advice of someone who has been programming for a year in his limited spare time (me). (c:</p>
<p>As a side note, the time stamp of the post is five months ago. As the comments say, I&#8217;ve been waiting for Hall&#8217;s book to arrive here in Thailand, and now it has. I have to say that I change my mind. Hall&#8217;s book is probably the best one _for my intended audience_.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Joran</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-27343</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 06:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>R F is totally right... i've torrented every xna book in existance... and carter may deal with the most advanced concepts... but he has the rare annoyance of being both unclear to the beginner... and full of incoherant ramblings and terrible organization and typos... and the list goes on.  how''s this... HOW BOUT AN AUTHOR THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS STEP BY STEP WHAT EACH LINE OF THEIR CODE DOES... i give a flying crap about redundancy... tell me what every line does!!! DO A GUI CAMTASIA VIDEO OR SOMETHING ala Lynda.com!  They are easier to understand, and i doubt they take much more time.  I appreciated Joran's tutorials (though not covering the 3d realm) more than any of the books trying to sell out there.  but i'm not saying i like them, apologies.

if someone made a full supported dts importer that works in xna without the need for Torque, this multimedia designer (that's me) could fully take the reigns.  until then, i guess i'll settle for codeplex XNA animation library with kw direct x exporter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R F is totally right&#8230; i&#8217;ve torrented every xna book in existance&#8230; and carter may deal with the most advanced concepts&#8230; but he has the rare annoyance of being both unclear to the beginner&#8230; and full of incoherant ramblings and terrible organization and typos&#8230; and the list goes on.  how&#8217;&#8217;s this&#8230; HOW BOUT AN AUTHOR THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS STEP BY STEP WHAT EACH LINE OF THEIR CODE DOES&#8230; i give a flying crap about redundancy&#8230; tell me what every line does!!! DO A GUI CAMTASIA VIDEO OR SOMETHING ala Lynda.com!  They are easier to understand, and i doubt they take much more time.  I appreciated Joran&#8217;s tutorials (though not covering the 3d realm) more than any of the books trying to sell out there.  but i&#8217;m not saying i like them, apologies.</p>
<p>if someone made a full supported dts importer that works in xna without the need for Torque, this multimedia designer (that&#8217;s me) could fully take the reigns.  until then, i guess i&#8217;ll settle for codeplex XNA animation library with kw direct x exporter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bluebaney10</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-69235</link>
		<author>bluebaney10</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>try to read (xna 3.0)
http://www.ziddu.com/download/4961670/LearningXNA3.0.pdf.html</description>
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<a href="http://www.ziddu.com/download/4961670/LearningXNA3.0.pdf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ziddu.com/download/4961670/LearningXNA3.0.pdf.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: bluebaney10</title>
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		<author>bluebaney10</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-69236</guid>
					<description>try to read
http://www.ziddu.com/download/4961670/LearningXNA3.0.pdf.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>try to read<br />
<a href="http://www.ziddu.com/download/4961670/LearningXNA3.0.pdf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ziddu.com/download/4961670/LearningXNA3.0.pdf.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: killerz</title>
		<link>http://www.xnatutorial.com/?p=70#comment-79462</link>
		<author>killerz</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>my dad bought me this book: ‘XNA Unleashed‘ by Chad Carter.

Its a very very good book!!!!

I am a C# programmer (Desktop Applications for Embedded Systems) and been doing programs for electronics and automotive companies... Which means I am totally new to game development...

I'm currently on chapter 4 and everything is well explained... I was able to absorb all the info from the first page up to the page I am currently reading... I saw some books about XNA, and they are nothing compared to Chad Carter's book... One instance, I saw some book which implements collision algorithm using lots of math, but Chad used the Rectangle class' Intersects method! With this, I am convinced that Chad's book will be able to achieve objective using simpler process!

I believe this book was written in a way where he puts his self in a beginner's perspective...  EVERYTHING IS WELL EXPLAINED! THATS A HUGE PLUS!!!!

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED by a C# programmer who is totally new to game development...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my dad bought me this book: ‘XNA Unleashed‘ by Chad Carter.</p>
<p>Its a very very good book!!!!</p>
<p>I am a C# programmer (Desktop Applications for Embedded Systems) and been doing programs for electronics and automotive companies&#8230; Which means I am totally new to game development&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently on chapter 4 and everything is well explained&#8230; I was able to absorb all the info from the first page up to the page I am currently reading&#8230; I saw some books about XNA, and they are nothing compared to Chad Carter&#8217;s book&#8230; One instance, I saw some book which implements collision algorithm using lots of math, but Chad used the Rectangle class&#8217; Intersects method! With this, I am convinced that Chad&#8217;s book will be able to achieve objective using simpler process!</p>
<p>I believe this book was written in a way where he puts his self in a beginner&#8217;s perspective&#8230;  EVERYTHING IS WELL EXPLAINED! THATS A HUGE PLUS!!!!</p>
<p>HIGHLY RECOMMENDED by a C# programmer who is totally new to game development&#8230;</p>
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		<author>melissa</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is interesting :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting <img src='http://www.xnatutorial.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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